@winston51 We're never going to be able to vote our way back to lives of liberty, peace and prosperity. The efficacy of voting died decades ago. As Mike Adams pointed out in an HRR, we will not even know anything at all about who's winning or what's really going-on once things heat up. All-in-all, this is no different than medieval times or most of the history of government and civilization. As long as people believe in voting, nothing will change.