@RuthieB I liked the scriptural quote of Proverbs 15:1. It is edified further in James 3:5-8. Thank you Ruth for sharing.

@zwartepiet Give Caesar what is Caesar's and give YHVH (God) what is God's. (Jesus Christ words to you). Greater is YHVH than any nation.

"All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity." Isaiah 40:17

America, and the western nations, are receiving their just punishment. You can't accept the killing of children from a womb as being 'fine.' You can't ignore YHVH and do as you please for your own pleasure by breaking His commandments when it is convenient. People want things to go back to the 'sinful' lifestyle they enjoyed before? I guess YHVH (God) should allow Sodom to keep going right along without correction.

Let them fight. They will not win. Sorry, the truth is repentance and it is the ONLY way a nation can be saved. (see Jonah 3:6-9). Understand that I am not against devout Christians but rather those who want sin back as a way of normality.