@HealthRanger We're not going to win this. I know you are religious but I'm telling you that most people when they are starved out are going to sign on to the UN rule in exchange for support. Yes a few preppers like you can hold out for a while however the majority can't and will sign on and then it's over. All of the blue states will go first. Reds will hold out and then get starved. This is a siege and we have no offensive. It is only a matter of time until it's over.